PotterCast # 110: DH Day's Eve in Chicago Transcript

Part 1 (0:00 - 27:41)

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Melissa Anelli (MA): Okay, welcome...

Sue Upton (SU): Squee!

MA: ...to the early show podcast on July 20th, 2007. (Audience cheers) (SU: Everybody's in the rows, I'm going to love it!) Come on John, join the show. Let's go. (SU: Yes! Yes!) We're in- where are we? We're in Downers Grove, Illinois in the beautiful, beautiful Tivoli Theater.

SU: Woo! It's beautiful, it really is.

MA: It's like the last twelve hours in which we can discuss Harry Potter like they are their own mystery. (SU sighs)

JN: Aw.

MA: Or the big mysteries anyways that are left to be unfolded. (sighs) (SU: Oh, man.) Who's going to take a nap before now and midnight?

JN: Me.

SU: Me. (SU and Audience laughs) Everybody's like, "Okay." Except for the parents, they're like, "No way! Are you kidding me?" We have to go, yeah, I know.

MA: Who's going to be up all night reading?

SU: Woo! Make some noise.

JN: Everybody... (Audience cheers)

SU: Yay!

MA: We always forget, you can't put the hands up for a podcast.

SU: Yeah, that's for an audio. We all show our hands and it's silence. No one's going to be reading, no.

MA: So, I think Downers Grove should have a chance to do our predictions quiz.

SU: Oh! (JN: Ooh.) Yes they should.

JN: The predictions, nice. (MA: So, you know...) It's fun to have Sue back. I missed Sue.

MA: Uh-oh. Sue's been gone...

Audience Member: We love you!

MA: We do love you Sue.

SU: Wee! I'm so happy to be here. I'm sorry I was away for the last couple of them. But, this is it, this is it, this is the last one.

MA: This is...

JN: Nobody here has been spoiled have they? (SU: Mm.) Pretty good?

MA: Good going, guys.

JN: So if you guys havn't heard, Crookshanks kills Mrs. Norris. (SU and Audience laugh)

SU: That is- you ruined it! (JN: I'm sorry.) You fool, meany.

JN: I should have said "earmuffs." (SU laughs)

MA: It takes effort to not get spoiled, it's not just...

SU: Professor Sprout and she has to... (laughs)

JN: Yeah.

MA: Oh, here they go.

SU: She has lots of them.

JN: She has lots of ear muffs.

SU: Yes. Neglect them. John's been neglecting his earmuffs, just leave them. (JN: Aw.) Just ignore him.

MA: Okay, and we're off again.

JN: We have five questions (SU: Okay, sorry.) (SU laughs) I guess for every city. We've probably going to be asking this city two or three times today. (SU: Probably so.) But, just for Downers Grove then I guess (SU: Right.) we'll ask our five questions. Our first question is about the Veil, in the Department of Mysteries. (SU: Ooh.) And if you guys think that Harry will be traveling behind the Veil, for whatever reason (laughs) to hang out with all of the dead people or something. (Audience laughs) (MA: Like Haley Joel Osment.) If you think he'll go back there, make some noise for everybody back home. (Audience cheers) And if you- wait, what did I ask?

SU: If their going through the Veil.

JN: If their going. If you don't think he'll be going back there, make some noise here. (Audience cheers) I just want to warn everybody that conscidering we are probably have many cities tied with the same answers, we're going to go by the volume of the responses as well, so fair warning.

MA: Met with silence.

SU: I know. (MA: Okay.) It's not too early to squee or make noise, it's not.

MA: Sue, it's never to early to squee.

SU: No, it's not.

MA: So, seriously, Downers Grove, are you going to win this or what?

SU: Come on. (Audience cheers)

JN: I knew they had it in them. They can do it.

SU: There you go.

MA: I don't know, St. Louis has got it over on you. (SU: Uh-oh.) One more time, Downers Grove. (Audience cheers)

SU: There you go.

JN: All right. Awesome.

MA: Okay, our second question is about Harry. Will he attending classes at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

JN: What if he transfers to Durmstrang or something.

MA: Yeah. (Audience laughs)

JN: That would be cool.

MA: That answer would be no. (laughs) If you think Harry will be attending classes at Hogwarts School in this book, say so now. (Audience cheers) If you think Harry has kissed his Hogwarts education good-bye... (Audience cheers)

JN: Woo-woo-woo-woo! Pretty good, pretty good.

SU: That was pretty good.

MA: Number three, Suze.

SU: Okay, I've had a little refresher thanks to John. This is a big one though, this is a big one about Mr. Harry Potter. It's involving the H-word and it's not Hufflepuff. Is Harry Potter a Horcrux? If you think he is, make some noise. (Audience cheers)

JN: Oh no.

MA: That was pretty loud.

SU: Wow. It's usually pretty quiet for that. If you think that Harry is not a Horcrux, make some noise. (Audience cheers) Wow.

MA: Wow.

JN: Pretty good.

MA: Number two, Harry- John.

JN: Number two, the big greasy man, Mr. Snape.

SU: Greasy, slimey git. (JN laughs)

JN: Big really greasy man. (SU laughs) If you think Mr. Snape is on our side, on Harry's side, on the Order's side, make your noise here. (Audience cheers)

SU: Look at that. I love Snape people. There's an audience member who has a shirt that says, "I trust Snape." Rock on.

JN: He's a good man, a good man. (SU: Yeah.) Kind of a butthead, but he's a good guy. (SU: Kind of, kind of.) If you think he will be a bad guy, betray everybody, just overall disappoint the world, make your noise here. (Audience cheers)

MA: That was like, pre-morning coffee.

JN: There's a few.

SU: Yeah.

MA: Woo, woo. (JN: Yay, go Snape.) You don't even believe it yourselves do you? Okay, okay, number one- number five, (makes drum noise) Harry is he going to live or die? If you think Harry will live make- no we're going to do die first. If you think he will die... (Audience cheers)

JN: Kill him! (SU: No!) I'm sick of Harry.

MA: This is why we save "live" for second.

JN: Let's just kill him. (MA laughs)

SU: Meanies.

MA: If you think Harry's going to live- (Audience cheers) all right.

SU: Okay, that's a winning vote right there.

MA: Yeah.

JN: Pretty good responses Downers Grove.

MA: Very nice, very nice, very nice. (SU: Games!) Who here knows what I mean by when we say we're going to play a game? Pretty much- oh, all you new people.

JN: A few people know about the game. (MA: John, go for it.) Well, the game is very simple. We're just going to be dueling each other with wands and magic and (SU: Words.) it will be very dangerous. Except this duel is all with your Harry Potter knowledge. And, I'm going to name a category from the books of people, places, things, or names, I guess that would be people too. (SU: Yeah.) And you're going to name as many of them as you can back and forth until one of you gets stumped. And then that person's stupified and the other person wins.

MA: I thought you were going to say that person's stupid.

SU: John!

JN: Never! No, there just going to get blasted away.

MA: Do we have volunteers?

JN: Sue's the good picker-outer I think.

SU: Oh, okay. Let's do some of the younger ones to get going. You, right there, come on up. (JN sings)

JN: On my left side, everybody is asleep.

SU: Okay John. No, no, he's over there. Yeah, yeah, you have your robes on, come on up.

JN: Very cool robes. All right everybody, tell us your names and where you're from.

Aimes Evans (AE): My name is Aimes Evans and I'm from Downers Grove. Right here. (Audience applauds)

JN: Right here, right around the block.

Scott Pascarsky (SP): I'm Scott Pascarsky and I'm from Downers Grove.

JN: Perfect. (Audience applauds) All right, the category for you guys, an easy one to start us off is students at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

AE: Draco Malfoy.

JN: Yup.

SP: Cho Chang

JN: Mm-hm.

AE: Hermione Granger.

SP: Ron Weasley.

JN: Die.

AE: Zacharius Smith.

Audience: Ooh.

JN: Live.

SU: He's not going to die. Don't say that. This is not live or die.

JN: Oh.

SP: Harry Potter.

JN: Die.

AE: Oliver Wood.

SP: George Weasley.

AE: Padma Patil.

SP: Fred Weasley. (Audience laughs)

AE: Psh. Can you name people who used to go to Hogwarts?

JN: Sure.

AE: Okay, Charlie Weasley.

JN: There you are.

SP: Ginny Weasley. (Audience laughs)

JN: Ginny!

AE: Crabbe. Darn you know...

SP: Goyle

AE: (laughs) Can you do teachers?

JN: Nope, that's another category.

AE: Okay.

JN: Who knows Hufflepuffs?

AE: Okay, let's see.

JN: There's like one.

AE: Pansy Parkinson.

JN: There's a Slytherin.

SP: Luna Lovegood.

SU: There you go.

JN: Who is it?

SP: Luna Lovegood.

JN: Die.

AE: (laughs) Did we do Ron Weasley?

JN: No! I'm conscerned for her. (Audience laughs) What was that?

AE: Ron Weasley, did we do that? (JN: Ron Weasley.) Ron Weasley, Ronald.

MA: We did Ron.

JN: We did Ron Weasley.

AE: Oh, yeah. All right.

JN: Good job you guys! (Audience applauds) Thank you very much.

MA: Go and see our friend Bre over here for your prize. So everybody get's the idea now? Who would think you could rock at this game? Yeah, I knew you would.

JN: Quiet a few of you want to play now.

MA: Left side's so not into, left sides like, "we're just going to watch."

JN: All right. (SU: Come on.) Who wants to play? Pick them again, you're the best picker-outer.

SU: No! You pick. Oh, me? Oh, all right. Pressures on. Any Hufflepuffs in the house? Come on, there's got to be one. (Audience laughs) Are you one?

JN: I see a Hufflepuff tie right there!

SU: Yeah! Come on up! Yeah! Hufflepuff sister.

JN: She's not embarrassed at all. Look at her.

SU: She's got a tie on, I love it.

JN: Perfect. (Audience applauds)

SU: All right, do we have any Slytherins in the house? I'm sure we do.

JN: It's always Huffle versus a Slyther.

SU: Well, you know come on.

JN: It's intimidating.

SU: Okay, you back there, come on. (JN: Uh-oh.) Oh, boy.

JN: Bum-bum-bum. Voldemort shirt.

SU: He's got a Voldemort shirt on.

JN: We're in trouble.

SU: Of course he's a Slytherin.

JN: Watch out. (SU laughs) Okay give us your name and if you are from Downers Grove, most likely.

Eddie Terrell (ET): I'm Eddie Terrell and I'm from Western Springs.

JN: Oh, look at that!

Maria Keene (MK): I'm Maria Keene and I'm from the middle of nowhere Nebraska.

JN: Oh, wow. Well, take that. (Audience cheers)

MK:: It's called Hastings. It's a town of about twenty-thousand.

JN: I'm sure we drove through that.

SU: You can all this way for the party here?

MK:: I'm so excited!

SU: Yay! (Audience cheers)

JN: Category. How about magical creatures? (SU: Ooh, Hagrid.) Hagrid is not a creature. (Audience laughs)

MA: Hagrid is the most responsible adult.

JN: You can start if you like, over here.

MK:: Bowtruckles.

ET: Giants.

MK:: Hippogriffs. (Audience laughs)

ET: Snakes.

MK:: Kneazles.

ET: Lions.

JN: (laughs) We're in trouble.

MA: Magical Creatures.

ET: Sphinxes.

JN: There you go.

MK:: Unicorns. (MA laughs)

ET: I'm phoning a friend.

MA: He's phoning a friend.

JN: Poll the audience here.

SU: You cannot call a friend, I'm sorry.

JN: (imitating Voldemort) Not one of you tried to find me.

ET: Nifflers.

JN: Very good.

MK:: Blast-Ended Skewts.

ET: Anaracnids. What Aragog is.

JN: No one can pronounce it so we'll give you that.

ET: Yeah. (Audience laughs)

JN: I can't pronounce it, so I'll except it.

MK:: Can the Giant Squid count?

JN: Surely.

ET: Mermaids.

JN: Mm-hm.

MK:: Thestrals.

JN: Their called Thestrals.

ET: Centaurs.

MK:: Oh.

JN: Who are the Centaurs? Centaurs.

ET: Centaurs.

MK:: Oh, uh, Phoenix.

JN: Aw.

ET: Lethifolds.

MA: Whoa.

JN: Whoa, where did that come from?

MA: Cool. (Audience applauds)

ET: Care of Magical Creatures stuff.

JN: Lions to Lethifolds. I forgot about Lethifolds. (laughs)

SU: Yes, but notice that the Slytherin doesn't know about this.

MK:: Does a Basilisk count?

SU: Yes.

JN: Sure. No one ever names my favorite dark creature.

SU: And what's your favorite one?

JN: I can't say it yet. Maybe they will, maybe they'll surprise me.

ET: Augries.

MK:: Well Voldemort's not really a human anymore, so can he count? (MK: and Audience laughs)

JN: Oh, we're stretching it there.

MK:: I think I might be stumped. Oh, um, Boggart.

JN: Okay.

ET: What?

JN: Boggart. Mmm, we've got to start the clock.

MA: Ten-nine-eight-seven-six-five-four-three...

ET: Animaguses.

JN: That's an awesome job, though, you guys.

ET: Yeah.

JN: Very nice. (Audience cheers)

MA: All right so, now that I've heard you all sitting there whispering going, "I know, I know, I know." (SU: Uh-oh, Melly's got a tough one.) Now who wants to go? (SU: Pick, pick, pick.) Well, we got- okay, I'll pick. I don't have glasses on, it's gonna be a bit of a blind pick.

JN: The magical creature, by the way, was a Nundu.

SU: A Nundu! What's that?

MA: Okay, you just jumped up, you're adorable. Come here. Yeah, you, with the black shirt. I'm probably pointing wrong.

JN: A nundu is the panther-like creature that will kill you with its breath.

SU: (gasps) Right!

JN: It can take out whole towns!

SU: Ooh!

MA: What house are you?

JN: Isn't that cool?

MA: What house are you?

SU: It is cool.

Matt Flaven (MF): Slytherin.

SU: Ugh.

MA: All right. We need a Gryffindor in the house.

SU: We need a Gryffindor against this one, right? Come on up here, Mr. Slytherin. (Audience applauds)

JN: The category for you guys, after you tell us your names and where you live so we can find you after the show. No. (Audience laughs) The category for you guys will be: locations in the Magical world. Including cities, towns, building names, shop names.

MA: We've found that this one can pretty much go on forever.

Hannah Crowley (HC): Hannah Crowley, Downers Grove. (Audience cheers)

MF: Matt Flaven. (Audience applauds)

MA: Where are you from?

MF: Downers Grove.

JN: Perfect! (Audience cheers)

JN: All right, ladies first!

HC: Diagon Alley?

MF: Hogsmeade.

HC: Hogwarts.

MF: Flourish and Blotts.

HC: Zonko's?

JN: Yep!

MF: Honeydukes.

JN: Mm.

HC: Durmstrang.

MF: Beauxbatons.

JN: Yep.

HC: Uh.

JN: Just think of a character, and think where they live.

HC: Does Godric's Hollow count?

JN: Sure.

MF: Knockturn Alley.

HC: Ollivander's.

JN: Yep.

MF: Borgin and Burke's.

JN: Hm.

HC: The owl- let's see, what's it called? (MA laughs) Owl...

JN: Ery? Owlery? (HC: Yeah, the...) Is that what she was saying? (Audience laughs) That's what I thought she was saying. (HC and Audience laugh) Did I cheat? No, I thought that was what she said!

HC: That- yeah. Sure.

JN: Perfect. (Audience laughs) All right.

MF: What was it?

JN: The Owlery.

MF: No, it's Eeylops. Eeylops.

JN: What's that?

MF: Eeylops.

JN: Yeah, where the kids send their letters from.

HC: I knew that.

SU: Oh, the Owlery is...

MF: Oh, well, Eeylops is...

HC: Yeah, the Owlery.

JN: Yes, where they buy the owls.

MA: Well, but he just did...

JN: They have any McDonald's in the magical world? (HC laughs) (makes ticking noise)

MA and SU: Ten, nine, eight...

HC: Stop it! (All laugh)

JN: Three, two, one. Oh, it was a good job, though! (Audience cheers) Good work!

MA: Good job, guys, good job!

JN: Go grab a button.

MA: Hey, John, I've never played you before, and I feel like..

SU: Ooh!

JN: Oh, fun!

MA: I want to play John.

JN: Okay!

SU: Pressure's on! (makes drumroll noise) It's gonna be a tough one!

JN: How many spells do you know?

MA: I don't know. I've never done this before, and John's (JN: Okay.) gonna win.

JN: I bet- no, you know lots of spells!

MA: John practices this! Come on. Okay. I've never had the inclination ever to play this game, (JN: Okay.) but just today.

JN: Now, I don't...

SU: Are we gonna...

MA: Okay, okay. Ready? (Audience cheers)

SU: Who do you think will win in this one?

MA: And then Sue's gonna- Sue gets winner!

JN: Okay. Oh, God.

MA: Okay?

SU: All right.

MA: Are we doing spells?

JN: Sure, that's probably the best choice.

MA: Okay. Reducto.

JN: Reducto.

MA: Ginny's favorite.

JN: Lumos.

MA: Nox.

JN: Sonorus.

MA: Quietus.

JN: We're in trouble. (MA and Audience laugh) (SU: Oh, my God.) Crucio.

MA: Imperio.

JN: Avada Kedavra.

MA: Impedimenta.

JN: Expecto Patronum.

MA: Evanesco.

JN: Protego.

MA: Episky.

JN: I'm trying to think of that stupid one spell that they put out Hagrid's hut with. And I always want to say Aquarius, but that's (SU: Oh.) the sign. So I'm not gonna do that one.

MA: (laughs) Aquarius? (JN laughs)

SU: (sings) Aquarius! Aquarius!

JN: Let's just go with Wingardium Leviosa.

MA: Point Me.

SU: Ooh.

JN: Let's go with Finite Incantatem.

SU: Hm.

MA: Aguamenti.

JN and SU: That's it. (Audience laughs)

SU: Good, way to give it to her. (laughs)

JN: Priori Incantatem.

MA: Is it- okay. (laughs) Jelly-Legs Jinx.

JN: Ooh. Petrificus Totalis.

SU: Ooh.

MA: Rictusempra.

JN: Sectumsempra.

MA: Ew! (Audience laughs)

JN: I know, it's so gross!

MA: Thanks, John! Serpensortia.

JN: Mm. Ridikulus.

MA: Tarantellegra.

JN: What was it?

MA: Tarantellegra. (JN: Ooh.) It's the Italian spell. (JN: Nice.) (laughs) Sorta.

JN: Avis.

MA: I've never done this before. It's hard. What did you say?

JN: Avis.

MA: Who-da-wha?

JN: Avis.

MA: Oh, right. Reparo.

JN: Hm. Reparo Maxima.

MA: (laughs) Reparo Maxima. (all laugh)

JN: Your whole town is saved!

SU: (laughs) I know! (all laugh)

MA: Avada Kedavra Maxima! (JN: Yeah.) Everybody dies.

JN: How about Accio?

MA: Stupefy.

JN: Depulsio.

MA: Ooh, look at you!

SU: Ooh, that was good!

MA: (laughs) I'd never heard that one in all our tour! Relashio.

JN: What was that one?

MA and SU: Relashio.

JN: Oh, wow.

SU: That's a good one.

MA: It kills the Grindylows. Or not kills, but, (imitating Fleur) "It was ze Grindylows!"

JN: How about Portus.

MA: Colloportus.

SU: Ooh.

JN: We didn't even do Alohomora yet, did we?

MA: Well, you just did.

JN: There it is. (MA and Audience laugh)

MA: Mobiliarmus. Mobiliarbus, actually. (JN: What was it?) Mobiliarbus. It's when they move the tree in the...

JN: Levicorpus?

MA: Levicorpus. Ooh, I think I'm stuck.

JN: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

MA: No, no, no, no, no. Just had one, and it's totally gone. This is hard! You're on the spot.

JN: It is! It's not an easy game.

MA: Inflamare.

JN: Stupefy.

MA: I said that.

JN: You did?

MA: I did! Aw!

SU: Aw!

JN: I don't remember that!

SU: Woo! That was good! Rock on! (Audience cheers)

JN: Melissa for the win!

SU: Yay! Yay!

JN: Oh, I should have thought longer!

MA: All right, Sue, do you want to play me or John?

SU: I don't want to play now! (MA laughs) I'm gonna get creamed! I will play only if I'm allowed to have help from the audience.

MA: Oh, let's do that! Okay. Who wants to be with Sue?

SU: Come on, I need some smart people. Who's the smartest people? Any Ravenclaws? No?

Dan: Yeah, I'm a Ravenclaw.

SU: Who's a Ravenclaw? All right. You're good? (Dan: Yeah.)

SU: You're good? All right, come on!

MA: Is it gonna be me versus the two of you? You got a Ravenclaw, can I get a Slytherin?

SU: Sure.

MA: Slytherins! Are you living in...

SU: I hope you know your stuff, because she'll pick something really hard.

Dan: Okay.

MA: A mind like a trap set to kill to win?

SU: You sure?

Dan: Yeah.

MA: Okay, you. No, you've been up already, haven't you? Oh, he's such a Slytherin. Okay, you, right here, a Slytherin.

JN: Okay, dang.

MA: What is it now?

JN: What shall you guys do?

SU: We should pick something...

Sarah: Sarah, Downers Grove.

SU: Say your name.

Dan: I'm Dan from Arlington Heights.

MA: John's gonna pick the category. (JN hums)

SU: Oh, I see your shirt, oh!

MA: Gryffindor and Slytherin versus Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw.

JN: The category for you guys shall be...

MA: They work hard and they're smart. (laughs) Brave and...

JN: Known Death Eaters.

SU: Oh!

MA: Known Death Eaters. Ooh.

JN: Oh, that's tough. That's probably...

SU: Oh, can I go first? Please?

MA: I'm excited!

SU: I know!

JN: How about known Death Eaters and Order members?

SU: Ooh! Ooh, ooh, ooh, can I go first?

JN: Sue gets to go first.

SU: I'm Sue from Michigan, and I choose Lucius Malfoy! (Audience cheers) (JN: Hey!) Sorry.

MA: You get to pick.

Sarah: All right. Avery?

Dan: Nott.

Sarah: Crabbe.

Dan: Mad-Eye Moody.

Sarah: Tonks?

Dan: Elphias Doge.

Sarah: Remus Lupin?

Dan: Kingsley Shacklebolt.

JN: (laughs) Are you two gonna play, or what? (all laugh)

Sarah: Dawlish.

Audience Member: Dawlish! Woo!

JN: Don't be confused by Dawlish! He's not an Order member yet. They've been trying to recruit him for years. (all laugh) He's not resisting, he's got better things to do.

Sarah: Okay, Sirius Black?

Dan: Crabbe.

Sarah: Severus Snape.

Dan: Goyle.

JN: Oh, we had a Goyle over here on this side! (SU: Aw!) Sue loses! (All laugh) Oh, okay.

MA: Well, we messed up, so now it's on.

Dan: Oh, you said Dawlish.

SU: Macnair?

JN: Ooh, I hate that guy.

MA: Molly Weasley.

JN: Molly Weasley!

Dan: Emmeline Vance?

JN: Ooh.

Sarah: Arthur Weasley?

SU: Hestia Jones?

JN: Ooh, Susie! Is that a Hufflepuff, probably? I think it was.

MA: Bill Weasley.

Dan: Arthur Weasley?

MA: Oh, we said it.

JN: Oh, they did say it over here! Oh, my gosh!

SU: It's my fault.

Dan: It's okay.

JN: Good round! Good round! (Audience cheers)

Dan: Here you go.

SU: That was good! Sorry, it was my mic, I couldn't hear anything.

JN: I think it's high time we started taking your questions.

MA: Yeah, totally. Let's do it. All right.

JN: And theory stuff.

MA: This is when you do your theories, thoughts, questions, predictions, anything that you either want to ask our opinion on, or ask everybody else's opinion on, things that you think's gonna happen in the book, some crazy theory you have that nobody in your family will listen to. (Audience laughs) That's what we're here for! Okay. (JN: Woot!) So, to save having to call people up every time, (JN: Yep.) we're gonna start a line right here, and we're just gonna go until we're done. So come on up.

Audience Member: I think Snape's trying to conquer the entire world for just himself.

JN: The whole world?

Audience Member: Yes! (MA laughs)

SU: Ooh.

JN: What would Snape do with a whole world of Snape law? (Audience laughs)

MA: He'd be like Jafar.

SU: Jafar. (Audience laughs)

JN: Yeah. It is...

SU: Does Snape sing? I don't know if he sings.

JN: Does Snape sing?

SU: Yeah!

MA: He'd outlaw shampoo.

JN: Aw. That'd be pretty cool, I like that idea.

Audience Member: Okay, a lot of people have been wondering about why Snape- sorry, why when Snape killed Dumbledore, Dumbledore flew off the tower, and everyone has all these about Dumbledore being alive, which obviously he's not. (JN: Aw.) But I was re-reading the books, and in the fourth one, when the impostor Moody is teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts class, talking about the Killing Curse, and he says if all the students in the room pointed their wands at him and said it, he wouldn't get so much as a nosebleed. And I was wondering if maybe this shows that the Avada Kedavra (JN: Hm.) can produce a different result based on the amount of power, or anger, or whatever's behind it. (JN: That's great evidence.) Or if whether he was just being...

JN: That's great evidence! (Audience cheers) (SU: Yeah.) We've been looking for something like that, something that would say that Snape could say the curse, and appear to do it, but have it not work, and maybe have some other spell come on underneath, and do whatever it was that happened. But oh, that'd be so cool! It wouldn't change anything, he'd still be dead, but just, (SU: Yeah.) it would change the method, which I think would change some characterizations of Snape. (SU: Wow.) I like that. It's a very cool point.

SU: Yeah.

Audience Member: Thank you!

MA: Thank you very much! (Audience cheers)

SU: See, that's the best part about doing the podcast, man. We get these awesome theories that (JN: I know!) we never would have heard.

MA: We can't them up on our own.

SU: I know!

JN: Heck, no!

SU: It's great!

Audience Member: I don't want to believe what I'm about to say, but (JN: Uh-oh.) last week, I read a theory by a fan that said McGonagall was a Death Eater. (SU: No!) And- I know. But she came up with some interesting ideas about it, like how, in the Sixth Book, how when she returned to Dumbledore's office, she seemed to be almost- well, she pulled a Moody. She brought in Harry by himself to question him, and she seems- there's another thing that says she almost doesn't do anything for the Order, she's just there, and she never seems to do anything, which- people think she's acting as a spy for the Death Eaters, (JN: Hm.) but I don't know.

JN: I gotta say, how awesome would it be to see (MA: No.) Maggie Smith play an evil character?

MA: Yeah, Maggie Smith. (Audience laughs)

JN: Could you imagine that? (MA: Yeah.) Just flip?

SU: But she's so perfect as McGonagall, good. No, she's not...

JN: That grin? Evil grin? "I was a Death Eater all along."

MA: The thing that puts me off that, though, is one little thing, is when Peeves is screwing the chandelier off, and she says, "It turns the other way." (SU: Yeah.) It just is so- (JN: Yeah.) a Death Eater doesn't do that. (SU: Yeah.) That's how I...

JN: A Death Eater doesn't help poor little Sybill when she's getting fired, and...

SU: Right.

MA: "There are several things I would like to say!" (JN: Yeah.) It's great. Thank you!

JN: One quick word of warning, because I just almost had a minor heart attack. (Audience laughs) The spoilers have been out for like a week, so when you hear things that other fans might have theories, coat that with the possibility that they might have read a spoiler. And just be very careful what you speak into the microphone today.

Audience Member: All right, this is something that I've been thinking about. In the last book, when he found- Harry got the locket, and it was fake, as the Horcrux, and it was signed R.A.B. I think it might be Sirius's brother who (SU: Yeah.) earlier took it, but my question is, is that in the Fifth Book, when they're cleaning out Sirius's house, there's a locket that none of them can open, so I was wondering if anybody had a theory anything about that.

JN: Quite possibly the Horcrux. Another question on that is do we think that that Horcrux has already been destroyed/deactivated? Or is it just an alive Voldemort Horcrux? Because most people do think you're absolutely right about both of those things, so...and the other question on that is where is it now?

SU: Oh, I think (JN: Did Kreacher hide it?) Kreacher has it.

JN: Did Dung take it?

MA: I think Aberforth...

SU: I think Dung, though- I mean, what was he doing with Aberforth, man? He had all that bag of stuff. What were they up to?

MA: Yeah, I think- yeah. Yeah. I think Aberforth had it, and- because wasn't there a scene where Aberforth was tying a scarf around his neck, and somebody said that he might have been wearing the locket? (SU: Whoa!) Yeah. Somebody said that last week, and I've been meaning to look it up and check.

JN: Wearing it? Wow.

SU: Do you think, though, he would be wearing it for good or to keep it safe?

MA: Maybe to keep it safe.

SU: Yeah.