PotterCast 102: Eureka Transcript

Part 1 (0:00 - 15:21)

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Dumbledore: Welcome, welcome to another...
Announcer: PotterCast.

Harry and the Potters: Hey, Potter People! Hey, Potter People! We always talking, you're always listening! Hey, Potter People! Hey, Potter People! We always talking! We're PotterCasting! Whaaaaaat?

Melissa Anelli (MA): Hi guys.

Audience: Hello.

Sue Upton (SU): Hi.

MA: Oh, gosh this is cozy. Come sit everybody. If you are standing up, come sit on the floor with us. Hi, welcome to our...

John Noe (JN): Hello.

MA: Where are we now? Eureka?

Audience: Eureka.

JN: Eureka.

MA: It feels like story time right? I feel all comfy. It's sort of rainy and gross outside, so we appreciate you coming. Is it really? (SU: This is normal?) Ugh. By two days? (JN: Aw.) Can I ask what this is? This lady- I have to explain it for the podcast. (SU: Oh, that's cool.) She's got a pinwheel and it's got (JN: Oh, cool!) Severus- it decides? Oh, I see!

JN: It's in Slytherin colors.

MA: It's good and evil so you have to spin it. Let's see what we get. Is this what decides right here? (Audience member: Yeah.) Okay, blowing it. (SU makes a drum roll sound) Here we go. Here is the answer to the big question. Is Snape good or evil? It's in between! (Audience laughs) (JN: Oh!) Not even a pinwheel can tell us. (blows the pinwheel) We're trying again. We're trying again. Hold on.

SU: Oh.

JN: Uh-oh, evil Snape.

MA: Oh, evil Snape. (SU: Evil.) Here we go. That's what Eureka says. (JN: That's pretty cool.) It is really awesome, thank you. Okay, so who here actually listens to PotterCast and who just decided- okay. Yay, hi! (JN: Cool.) And who decided to come by because they saw a sign and thought it was cool. (JN: There you go.) Yay! We love new people. We are PotterCast, the Harry Potter Podcast from The Leaky Cauldron. We talk about theories, discussions- (laughs) we talk about discussions- theories, news, canon, the books, the movies, the everything and we've been traveling around bringing podcasts all over the- (SU: Mm-hm.) well mostly the Pacific Northwest, nor- southwest, now we are in the northwest. (JN: Yeah.) Yesterday we were in London.

SU: Yeah, it was awesome.

MA: So, yeah, I know, what the heck? And now we are in Eureka.

JN: Ta-da!

Audience member: Same weather I think.

MA: Same- you're right! Same weather.

JN: Yeah.

SU: Freezing the whole time.

MA: Really? Okay I want to repeat that. Humbolt County, which is where we are, is second only to London in amount of rainfall. (Audience member: No, fog.) Oh fog! I thought you said "fall" like rainfall. Fog. The airport was built so pilots could train to fight in the London fog. That's awesome.

JN: Wow.

MA: That's awesome. Between this and San Francisco- wow!

SU: It was terrible there (MA: Amazing.) They even had hail! It poured rain. It just poured during the premiere.

MA and JN: Oh, God.

JN: It was a mess.

MA: We were covering the premiere and right before Rupert Grint shows up in front of us, the skies just opened up. We were just drenched. I had a sweatshirt on and it was just- uck. (JN: We were soaked.) It was gross. Anyway. (SU: Jo looked fabulous.) She did, and then she didn't talk to us. She was standing- I was standing here and she was standing right there and she kept looking the other way and she never turned to her left and then we were told later she was like, "Oh, they were there, I missed them." I was standing right next to you. What? She looked cranky? Really? (JN: Hm.) The one from the interview, like on Leaky?

JN: Yeah probably, what the heck? (Audience laughs) What isn't on Leaky?

SU: I missed that news. I'll have to go look.

MA: Guess I've got to go read my site. (laughs) Okay, so each and every city we go to we are starting out with a predictions test for each city. So, we are trying to discover- some of you have already listened to- that after Deathly Hallows comes out, which city knew the most about their Harry Potter. So- you guys- this is a nice group, you can actually sit and discuss it for us. Everybody else just screamed. (JN: Yeah.) So, you know this is friendly, I like it. We have five questions for you and the first one- should we make the first one the last one again? (JN: Yeah, probably smart.) Okay. First question is going to be whether you think that we are going to see the opposite side of the veil in this book? Okay, make up your minds. Everybody sit and think. Hold on. You ready? If you do think so, make some sort of noise. (Audience members applaud) I like how I said make some sort of noise and she's like, "Can I raise my hand?" (Audience laughs) That is awesome. (laughs) And if you- I know we frequently forget, too. It's okay. (Audience laughs) If you don't think so. (Audience applauds) (JN: Okay.) Okay. Answer to question number one. Sue, do you know the next question?

SU: Uh, no, uh. (JN and MA laugh)

MA: School! (Audience laughs)

SU: Oh, yes. If you think that Harry will return to Hogwarts, go to school? Will it open? Will it be there? (Audience member: Yep.) Clap. Yay. (Audience applauds)

MA: Will Harry attend class? Will Harry attend class? That's the question.

SU: Okay, if you don't think he will be there, just go, "No."

Audience: No.

MA: And if you do.

SU: Say, "Yes."

Audience: Yes.

MA: We just had to clear that up because there was some confusion. All right, we'll find out on July 22. Our third question.

JN: Third question. Number three. If you think Harry is a Horcrux, say, "Yes," somewhat loudly right here. (MA laughs)

JN: Nobody does.

MA: I love it!

SU: I love that.

JN: So go ahead and say, "No," if you don't think he's going to be a Horcrux.

Audience: No!

MA: Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.

SU: You know what, that is amazing because so many people, it's the same response everywhere. (JN and MA: Yeah.) That's good.

MA: Yeah, that question's getting pretty consistent nos these days. You know what's happening? We're putting out our tour shows and people are listening (Audience laughs) and going, "Oh, well they didn't think so." All right, our second question. Big one, Pinwheel Lady. Is Snape good or evil? If you think that he is working for the Order, make some noise now. (Audience cheers) If you think that he is secretly Voldemort's dude. (Audience members cheer) (JN: A few people. A few people.) Okay, a few people. And the big question. (makes drum roll sound) I can't do this forever.

JN: Will Harry live at the end of Deathly Hallows? (Audience claps) Or will Harry- (MA: Look at them shaking their heads. Aw, tsk, tsk.) Or will Harry die?

MA: Go ahead, make the noise. You know you want to. (Audience member applauds) (laughs)

SU: Boo! (laughs)

JN: A lone clapper.

MA: You're wrong. (Audience laughs) He's not going to die, come on. Huh? New cover, the special edition cover. (JN: What about it?) You think it's the very end and they're flying away- everybody see that cover? (Audience: Yeah.) (JN: The dragon.) It's them flying away on a dragon. The trio's all battered and torn and they're flying away on a dragon. (JN: Yeah.) It's pretty cool, actually. Hey, did we discuss a Canon Conundrum at all? Ever? (JN: Not particularly. No.) No. We're tired. (Audience laughs) It's been a long day. So- once we're done with our predictions quiz we like to have a Canon Conundrum. If you listen to PotterCast regularly we have a thing called Canon Conundrum which is all the questions that are left to be answered in this book. We try and pick one and riddle it out and get to the bottom of it so we usually pick one before we get here. (JN: Yeah.) But we decided in the car (JN: Yep.) that Eureka was going to be so cool that they could come up with the question. (Audience laughs) (JN: Exactly.) So, if you've got an idea for a Canon Conundrum, let's hear it. (hums "Jeopardy!" tune) Go for it.

JN: Wouldn't it be funny to see- you think of a Healer and you think of Madam Pomfrey, (SU: Right.) a sweet little old lady like that. And then you've got Snape, (SU: Right.) who is the polar opposite of Madam Pomfrey. (laughs)

SU: Complete, yeah. Because you don't see him as a nurturing kind of huggy kind of touchy-feely guy.

MA: Oh, really? I do.

SU: No. (Audience laughs) I really don't know if that's how- I don't know that he needs to be redeemed so much. He's got to be more revealed. (MA: Okay, okay.) The truth, you know. (JN: Yeah.) (MA: Yeah, you're right.) That would be an interesting way he could do that, though, because like John pointed out, he did with Dumbledore with that ring. We haven't heard that story about what happened with that ring. (JN: Sure.) And we'd all like to really know what happened.

MA: And Snape saved him. (JN: Yep.) But it might be that he's just so good at Potions that it's the closest they have to a Healer, and really...

JN: Well, doesn't Snape make up all of the potions that Madam Pomfrey uses in the hospital wing? (MA: Yeah. Yeah.) All those things.

MA: The serious ones, anyway. (SU and JN: Yeah.) But the ones that deal with Dark Magic because when you've been touched by Dark Magic, who knows about that? Snape. (JN: Yeah, right. Certainly.) And he has that handy book, or did, that tells him exactly. (JN: Well, it's all in his memory.) It's all him anyway. Who thinks it's more than just him? That it might be Lily Evans writing in there a little bit? There's some theories around about that (JN: What?) in the Half-Blood Prince book. (JN: In different handwriting?) Yeah, well, it's just small and cramped and somebody suggested that some of it might be a girl's handwriting as well. Maybe Lily Evans and him were Potions partners.

SU: But I'm just back on the Potions stuff. Slughorn's still around, right? So he could conceivably still do those things and would he be as good as Snape?

MA: No. (Audience laughs) (JN: No?) I just don't think so, I don't know. Slughorn clearly is talented at it (SU: Right.) but I think Snape is uncommonly gifted at it. (JN: Yeah.) That's what I think, anyway. Though he didn't want to teach it. He didn't, he didn't. He wanted to do the Dark Arts instead of Potions. (JN: It's true.) (whispers) He's the Potions Master.

JN: Hm. Who can even imagine Snape without his potions? I can't.

MA: Okay, all right there was- who else- okay, you know what we're going to do? We're just going to open it to talk about whatever you want to talk about. No Conundrums this episode. We just want to talk about (JN: Raise your hand.) the second part of the show where we just have everybody (SU: Raise their hand and ask...) discuss whatever you want about the book series. So, go for it.

SU: It must be pretty powerful magic to Imperius a dragon, I would think.

MA: Yeah.

Audience member: Aren't they smiling?

MA: I don't know about smiling, but they look a little more like Puff the Magic Dragon. (JN: Yeah.) They look like- can he be friendly? No, I think the dragon looks like, I mean if- yeah, it does feel like a triumphant scene, they're riding into the sunset. It feels like- you know, when we were in Chicago, I said something stupid. I was like, "Oh! Oh!" because somebody said it was the end, the very end. I said, "Oh, who does that? Come on. They're not going to put the very end of the book," and somebody goes, "Uh, Chamber of Secrets." And I was like, "Okay, fair point." Then somebody said, "Prisoner of Azkaban." and I was like, "Do you want to run my site?" (MA and Audience laugh) You know? You know? But no, it's totally true. It could be the very end.

SU: Arthur said that, yeah.

MA: Arthur Levine. Yeah. Yeah, that this is his favorite scene and he specifically asked for that scene to become the cover. Right, would be his favorite scene.

JN: Evil Arthur Levine.

MA: Evil dragon. Charlie Weasley brings an evil dragon, you know.

SU: I don't know. I don't know if that's a scene of sorrow. I just find that that's a moment they're going- (JN: Yeah.) although, I think they've been through something traumatic because of their clothing and stuff. I don't know, 'cause if they're all sad and somebody's dead behind them...

JN: They look victorious.

MA: They don't look happy, but they look, I guess, anxious and they look like- (JN: Accomplished.) I don't know. Ron and Hermione's robes are pretty torn up. You know? (JN: Yeah.) Maybe they were in the broom closet. Sorry. (laughs) She caught it.

SU: Yeah, it's not the very end. I agree with that.

MA: Don't say Hufflepuff. (laughs) Don't start. Once you start it never stops.

SU: The magic word.

Audience member: So, they're supposed to be finding things about Hogwarts founders because they have to find the Hufflepuff cup.

SU: See, I believe that they're going to find out about all four of those, the founders. And I think it's really possible.

MA: Jkrowling.com. Mm-hm. Yeah, and do you notice that she's been putting the founders up. Every other wizard of the month on her site has been girl, boy, girl, boy, girl, boy for two years now. No, three years now. Now, she had Slytherin and then Gryffindor. Which Gryffindor should be July, that's yeah, the lion and everything else. But she could have put Slytherin first and Hufflepuff second, and then- (JN: Yeah.) So why- I mean she's clearly hiding Ravenclaw. (SU: Right.) Probably, they'll be holding- we're like, "Oh, we're going to find out something." Uh, no. Definitively not. So, probably August first when we've all read it and we all know exactly what to look for (JN: Sure.) Ravenclaw will be holding something of importance on her site. (JN: Yeah.) Which is pretty cool to us. Hey, I got to say. I thought there were going to be like two people here. But this is pretty good. Nice costume! (SU: Yes.) (JN: Very cool.) Very nice. We have our own McGonagall over here. (Audience member: Oh, my goodness.) Nice! Where did you get that cane?

Audience member: My son.

MA: Does he make them? Wow, where?

SU: Lucius would like that cane. Very cool.

MA: Yeah, Lucius would love that cane. When you see the movie, Jason Isaacs does something with that cane, with the wand, and it was his idea. He told us, I forgot to tell you. He told us in London when we met him outside the stage show that there's something we see him doing. (JN: I don't even remember what he did.) Yeah, I can't do it because I'm going to spoil it for them. (JN: Yeah.)But there's something that he does that- and when you see it you'll know. It's the only thing that he does with the cane. And it was totally his idea because they weren't going to use it at all. And he was, "No, I want to use my cane." And so...

SU: See, isn't he just wonderful?

MA: Yes, he's fantastic, Sue. He's the best person ever. (SU, MA, and Audience members laugh)

Audience member: So, does he get one in the face?

SU: Oh, we haven't seen the IMAX.

MA: We haven't seen the IMAX yet. It's those twenty minutes, so yeah he's not. I don't know that you see- okay slight movie spoiler. (SU: Right.) Lucius Malfoy gets punched in the face by Sirius Black. Yeah. Sirius Black shows up and says, "Get your ass off my godson." It's like boom! It's nice. (SU: It's awesome.) Forget the wands. Mano a mano.

SU: That last twenty minutes, it's battle.

MA: But you don't see the punch coming, so 3-D is really not going to- you know? But there are parts that you can see are specifically going to look amazing in 3-D. It's going to look...

JN: Yeah, oh yeah. (Audience member talks) Oh, no!

MA: Wow, really? Six hours? What about Oregon? That's about six hours away. You can come with us tomorrow.